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I chat with the Tanya Faison, Founder of Black Lives Matter Sacramento about what it means to do grassroots work in an age of overwhelming state surveillance. We get into some generational differences in how today’s youth resist state violence compared to their older and more critical Baby Boomer forerunners. As I expected, Sacramento’s Stephon Clark’s name was speckled throughout the program by the guest, as his death at the hands of law enforcement captured the attention of the nation earlier this year.

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